Invocation of Saints and Prayer to Mary?

Invocation of Saints and Prayer to Mary?.



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2 responses to “Invocation of Saints and Prayer to Mary?

  1. Richard

    Aren’t people most alive when they enter heaven? Do we cease praying when we are in the presence of God? If I can ask you to pray for me here on earth, why couldn’t I ask you to pray for me when you are in the presence of God? The church even from its earliest times has asked the saints in heaven to pray for them.

    • cb

      Richard – I see no place in the scriptures that warrants what you are suggesting.

      The Lord Jesus taught us to call upon God as our Father (Mat. 6). The new testament teaches (1 Tim. 2) there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus (obviously the office of Mediator relates to more than prayer but it, nevertheless, includes prayer).

      To call upon human beings that have died is to give them the same/similar status as God himself, this is idolatry and the breaking of the first commandment.

      We are to pray to God only, it is he that is able to search our hearts, hear our requests, pardon our sins and fulfill the desires of all. It is he only that is to be believed in, and worshiped with religious worship. Prayer, a special part of worship is to be made by all to him alone and to none other. (a summary of Westminster Larger Catechism answer to Q.179, Are we to pray to God only?)

      The psalmist writes of God, “call upon me in the day of trouble; I will deliver you, and you will glorify me”. (Psalm 50:15) In Psalm 124 we read, “our help is in the name of the Lord, who made heaven and earth”. Isaiah writes in chapter 43, “I, I am the Lord, and besides me there is no savior.” The prophet goes on in the same chapter describing who this Lord is and what he has done and is doing and then in verse 22 he chastises the people of God for not calling upon him, “Yet you did not call upon Me, O Jacob”! What a terrible and frightening charge to have brought against us.

      Jesus tells us in John 14, “Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask Me anything in my name, I will do it.” It is through Him, Jesus Christ, that we have access to God. He is our high priest according to Hebrews 4: 14-16, “Let us then with confidence draw near to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need.” In Hebrews 7, referring to Jesus in the office of High Priest we read, “Consequently, he is able to save to the uttermost those who draw near to God through him, since he always lives to make intercession for them.” And one more from Hebrews 13:15, “Through him then let us continually offer up a sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of our lips, that acknowledge his name.”

      To call upon other human beings is to rebel against God and his way. It is to break his commandment and bypass the one way and mediator he has provided for the world, his beloved Son in whom he is well pleased.

      Besides this I have not spoken of the Spirit and his work in aiding us and interceding for us in our prayers (Romans 8). The Holy Spirit is not going to take our prayers, our groanings and go contrary to God the Father or God the Son and deliver these thoughts to dead human beings, no, perish the thought. He helps us and intercedes for us according to the will of God.

      Finally, let me say a word or two about the dead. According to the scriptures those who have died in the Lord are in his presence, resting in Jesus Christ and waiting for the resurrection of the body. Hebrews refers to them as “the spirits of the righteous made perfect”. They have shed their body of death and entered into his holy presence without sin. But they have not become gods in themselves, they have not taken on powers or attributes that belong to God only.

      I hope you will take this response in the spirit it is intended, I mean no harm or bear no ill will to you but I am attempting to speak the truth and speak it in love. It is truth that matters above all things. May the Lord bless you to walk in the truth.